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Minnesota does not need to increase the absolute number of postsecondary graduates in coming years, argues Steve Hine of the Minnesota Department of Economic Development (DEED). Despite the much slower rate of labor-force growth projected for the state, the challenge, he says, isn't to produce morepostsecondary graduates, but to deliverbetter-aligned graduates, whose postsecondary credentials and fields of study better match the needs of the economy.
Minnesota has always had a very highly educated labor force, with 60 percent of the state's workforce holding some sort of college credential, whether an industry-recognized credential or an associate, bachelor or graduate degree. But Hine asserts that only 35 percent of the state's jobs currently require postsecondary education. He notes that many college graduates are working in occupations that don't require postsecondary credentials or degrees. These college graduates displace lesser-educated people from their jobs, since employers find the more highly educated candidates more attractive. Proper alignment between college education and workforce needs is crucial to the employment success of both postsecondary graduates and the lesser educated, he states.
Hine shares data showing that different fields of study for bachelor-degree graduates in Minnesota result in widely different employment outcomes. Graduates in fields like engineering, for example, are much more likely to be working full-time after graduation and to be earning markedly higher salaries than graduates in fields like visual and performing arts or history. He argues that young people should explore these data before selecting college majors.
Hine explains that new longitudinal data developed by the state can show outcomes for recent graduates of various programs at individual schools. However, he said, some state postsecondary schools have resisted the public posting of this information.
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Response Summary:Readers rated these statements about the topic and about points discussed during the meeting, on a scale of 0 (strongly disagree) to 5 (neutral) to 10 (strongly agree):
1. Topic is of value. The interview summarized today provides valuable information or insight.
2. Further study warranted. It would be helpful to schedule additional interviews on this topic.
3. Better alignment leads to fuller employment. A better alignment of education and workforce needs would help to prevent lesser-educated workers being displaced by college grads who, having exhausted other options, end up moving down the jobs ladder.
4. 4-year degree overrated. The need for a four-year degree is overrated.
5. High school diploma insufficient. But having only a high school diploma is clearly insufficient for earning a living wage.
6. Students need wage, employment data. Students should be encouraged to pay closer attention to wage and employment rates for various fields of study so that they can make more intelligent decisions about the type and amount of education they should strive for.
7. Colleges should provide necessary data. Higher education institutions should freely share all data that illustrates their graduatesí actual earnings organized by level and field of education.
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2. Further study warranted. A serious discussion from DEED or someone who has an understanding of what business needs and how business operates.
3. Better alignment leads to fuller employment. Agree that better alignment will be beneficial but the relationship between alignment and job displacement and options makes no sense.
4. 4-year degree overrated. Only one opinion not supported by any rationale or data.
5. High school diploma insufficient. Some form of post secondary education remains a focus for all; the form and type is the question. We also need to recognize that some will not obtain additional education beyond high school and ensure that there is a path for these individuals.
6. Students need wage, employment data. Wages and job rates are important but we seem to forget that the worker or individual must seek a work place in which he/she has interest and can see a vision of career and opportunity. We often place too much discussion on the wage and not on the value and purpose of the job to the individual.
7. Colleges should provide necessary data. Useful and important but see above comments. Job must match individualís interest
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At the same time, one would think that students would naturally operate in their own best interests and choose productive educational paths prior to committing significant time and money. The information is readily available as to which careers are in demand. Yet many students still choose dead end educational paths. Has there been any research performed to determine how students choose their educational paths to see if there are any significant defects in the process? Are citizens stubbornly choosing educational paths out of emotion rather than market demand?
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